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A history of violence  

40Deuce 46M
4634 posts
3/24/2019 12:42 pm

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3/25/2019 5:36 pm

A history of violence


That movie was pretty good in the beginning but the ending was weak .

Last night I was hanging out with Double D and we were discussing the autonomous cars and how they should be programmed which naturally flowed into the old question of – if you found out that someone was an active serial killer and they weren’t going to get caught would you take them out ? Which then turned into a discussion about self-defense and I expressed my belief that I’m not sure I would resort to violence even for self-defense . So then she asked “Just for yourself or also in the defense of others ?” And I said probably in either case .

Then she asked me “Even if one of your nieces was being attacked ?” which is a horriblye thought that will stick with me for a while but I’ll call fair on that because I ask her terrible things all the time . My answer was kind of wishy-washy on that but I also think we weren’t communicating very well – I didn’t mean imply that I wouldn’t care enough do anything , more that I wasn’t sure I COULD do anything .

She was so disgusted by this admission that we almost didn’t have sex . I mean she eventually caved obviously because just look at me – who’s going pass all this up ? But this revulsion got me thinking more about the question .

The first thing that came mind is when I worked the strip club in college and two of the goons there curb stomped a guy . I was definitely frozen in that moment . Even if I had wanted to I doubt I could have done anything to intervene in that scenario . If for some reason they had me I probably would have been able run away but that’s probably about it . Granted I was a college and they were professional goons so maybe I get a pass on that but regardless it seems support my stated position .

But then the next thing that came mind was the time those were trying hurt my cat and I went berserk and chased after them (and tripped and fell on my ass) . Which kind of blows the whole thing out of the water . As you may remember that incident was so disturbing me that I eventually sought out religious advice ! It was also 0% useless and stupid as you may remember . So I guess I can’t claim be 0% nonviolent .

The next thing that occurred me was the time my old job I shoved I guy (I swear I barely touched him) and he lost his balance and fell down the stairs . That was like wild pier six brawl of course but it pokes another hole in the non-violent theory .

The next car in the through train was back in the day when the gang and I would D&D into the wee hours of the night and a belligerent drunk redneck started pounding on the door saying someone had fucked his dog . All my friends went out to confront him and I did not . My friend Gedo , who’s house this happened , said “I don’t blame you he could have had a gun” but the truth is I wasn’t thinking about that – I was just scared . I had a real hard time facing my friends for a long time after that .

My friend Jado thinks that I became fearful and paranoid in HS after I sucker punched a dude and he started stalking me and was arrested brandishing a pistol and saying he was going to kill me . But I’m pretty sure I was already like that . However that puts further kibosh on the non-violence theory because I did punch a guy .

One of the many reoccurring stress dreams I have is being out on a date and some dude or dudes starts hassling my lady and I don’t do anything about it . I would probably have this dream anyway but it probably happens more because of two things . One that my first girlfriend loved getting into it with dudebros . I don’t know if she wanted to see me get my ass kicked or if that was just the way it was but it got to the point where I didn’t want to go anywhere with her because I knew there was a good chance she was going to mix it up with someone and likely she wasn’t the one who would reap any potential consequences .

Second that in HS a bunch of my friends went to a shitty part of Chicago to see some loud screamy band after which they decided it would be a good idea to try and score some drugs . It was not . In addition to being robbed the women in the group were taken to a house and sexually assaulted .

I know I’ve referenced this at least 3 times already and that Louis CK is on the list now , but there was an episode of Louis that really hit home with me where he was out on a date and some bros in and are being loud and obnoxious and he says something them and they make like they’re going kick his ass and he doesn’t exactly beg them not but he abases himself for sure get them lay off . And afterwards his date can’t even look at him . She admits logically he did the right thing but emotionally she just can’t be with him after seeing him get punked like that .

I feel like that’s probably how that would go down IRL . It sucks but that’s probably true most of the time . I remember one time being in bed with a woman and she sighed and said that she felt so safe with me and I said “Why ? The list of things that I can protect you from that you can’t handle yourself is pretty thin” . Smooth right ? Although in her defense just having another person in the mix does make you a lot safer – or maybe not since most women are attacked by the guys they’re dating .

Anyway , it was a blow the old ego when I saw the revulsion on her face but that’s why I try keep it real – I should be judged appropriately . I don’t as some people claim TRY drive people away but I don’t want bullshit them either . I understand the impulse try and pull the wool over people’s eyes so they’ll like you but if you’re not being genuine they don’t really like you . So what’s the point ? They might as well like someone else . quote Popeye the sailor man “I am what I am” .

Anyway , this morning I watched a compilation of the best DPs from 20 set the music of "Work Bitch" so I feel better now .

The dirty coward is the slime of the earth , working exclusively for themselves and shamelessly retreating from harm's way even if that harm is about hit the person that just saved his or her life two seconds ago . They'll take every advantage and are not above using dishonorable tactics and dirty tricks , but they'll cry and moan every time the tables are turned and someone uses the same tactics against them , asks for a volunteer or reminds them of that promise they made . They’re often full of vicious plans for anyone they dislike , as long as they aren't in need of that person's skills at the moment .

Though the dirty coward may be a sociopath (or one of the Social Darwinists) they're certainly not heroic or comedic . And if they're a bastard , they're certainly not meant be magnificent . They're usually only marginally competent start with and even the cleverest of them tends be short-sighted . Even when they know that breaking ranks will leave a hole in the defenses that will let the enemy in , leading far more danger for them in the long term , they will generally run for it anyway .

Their allegiance almost always lies with whoever can cause them the most immediate harm , even if that threat isn't likely last. They'll be happy badmouth people their faces when they can not immediately hurt them , only attempt curry favor when the roles reverse . Dirty cowards are especially prone suffering a karmic death , usually at the hands of whatever they were trying run from , and are similarly likely suffer a villainous breakdown .

Usually a villain unless used comically , although they may sometimes be a certain type of civilian that gets in the way . When used as a villain , this is a cheap way make the heroes look good in comparison , even if they're not everything they should be . Villainous dirty cowards tend fall squarely into Neutral Evil , since they are first and foremost out for their own hides the expense of others . One of the best ways demean the big bad is by making them out be a coward . It's doubly ironic if the one who brings fear into the hearts of others turns out to be a pathetic scaramouch who hypocritically makes others feel weak because they are really the weak one and try to hide it .

It's tough to make a main character into one of these without them coming off as more slimy and irritating than funny . Unlike most villains , the dirty coward doesn't even have finesse , which can make them extremely annoying . The dirty coward may or may not have a horrific past to explain their actions , but it doesn't usually redeem them , at least not in the minds of the audience . When their backstory doesn't seem all that convincing , but convinces the hero anyway , it can be seen as a major cop out .

The dirty coward is pretty much always , for the dubious reason that women aren't expected be brave in the first place .

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40Deuce 46M
5725 posts
3/24/2019 12:43 pm

Almost everything in this post has been talked about before so I apologize to long time readers for the repetition .

As usual I never apologize for the quality .

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charlesmartel0 59M
173 posts
3/24/2019 1:37 pm

You're what we in the gun community refer to as a sheep. You are food for the wolves, and left to yourself, you depend on the scarcity of wolves to protect you. I'm the sheepdog type. I'm not a violent person, but I'm prepared to visit violence on a miscreant threatening me or anyone else in the vicinity with grievous bodily harm or death. I'm intensely protective of the virtue of a woman, or the innocence of a child.

The first step is to attempt to de-escalate the situation, the second to make it clear that the behavior will not be tolerated. The third, if words fail, is to engage with a weapon up to lethal force. I carry a switchblade and a .45 wherever it isn't specifically illegal.

Sometimes, violence is the answer, despite what some people say. If you're not the sort who can use it, by all means don't. having a gun in your hands would probably go very wrong. There are self defense training programs that may be of help, give you a little confidence. Attitude is everything, and I'm sure you're a good judge of yours.


smartasswoman 66F  
35813 posts
3/24/2019 2:31 pm

I applaud your honesty and I agree, it's best to keep it real with people.

That said, I'm a little bit pleased that someone turned the impossible hypothetical question game back on to you so well.


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